Tune in to hear from iHeartMedia veteran Jack Gelley on how brands connect with customers through storytelling, listening to real pain points, and building long-term trust with audio and consistent campaigns.
He covers practical advice for business owners — SEO and website basics, campaign timing and measurement, the role of AI, and sales follow-up — to help you grow without losing your why.
Closing the Marketer-Consumer Gap
Steve and Jack discussed the disconnect between marketers and consumers,
highlighting how marketers often misunderstand consumer needs and
preferences. Jack emphasized the importance of asking questions to understand
customer pain points and the value of leveraging word-of-mouth advertising and
trusted media platforms like podcasts to build trust and effectively reach
consumers. He noted that only about 5% of the market is typically in the market
for a product or service at any given time.
Consumer Trust and Advertising Challenges
Jack and Steve discussed the challenges of convincing consumers to switch
service providers, emphasizing that advertising alone is insufficient unless it
addresses the consumer's pain points. Jack highlighted the importance of trust
and personal recommendations in influencing consumer decisions, while Steve
stressed the need for business owners to listen to their customers' needs. They
also touched on the evolving landscape of advertising, noting the decline in
traditional TV viewership and the growing influence of platforms like Amazon,
which can be both trusted and deceptive due to paid reviews.
Understanding Business Owners' Marketing Needs
Jack and Steve discussed the importance of understanding a business owner's
"why" when it comes to advertising and marketing. Jack emphasized the need to
connect with business owners on a personal level, building trust and long-term
relationships. They also touched on common traumas and misconceptions that
business owners have about marketing, such as the fear of wasting money or
the belief that only half of their marketing efforts will be successful. Jack advised
business owners to commit fully to marketing strategies and not to be afraid to
invest in advertising that aligns with their goals.
SEO Fundamentals for Business Websites
Jack emphasized that SEO is a foundation for marketing but not marketing itself,
and he advised business owners to focus on creating a professional, mobileoptimized website with clear call-to-action elements to attract and retain
customers.
Essentials of Effective Advertising
Jack explained that successful advertising requires three key components: the
right message, the right audience, and the right number of repetitions. He
emphasized that marketing campaigns need time to build brand recognition, with
the first few exposures often going unnoticed, but persistence is crucial as
repetition helps messages sink in. Jack advised against spreading marketing
budgets too thin across multiple tactics, instead recommending a focused
approach for 5-6 months to allow for meaningful results. Steve noted that
business owners often seek quick solutions, which can be their biggest
challenge in advertising, as they may give up too soon if they don't see
immediate results.
Marketing Strategy and AI Insights
Steve and Jack discussed the importance of having a knowledgeable point
person or agency to oversee marketing efforts, emphasizing the need for
someone who understands industry-specific cycles and can measure campaign
effectiveness. Jack highlighted the benefits of IHeart's in-house production and
the importance of monitoring organic and direct site traffic as key performance
indicators. They also touched on the growing influence of AI in advertising and
the need for fact-checking AI-generated content.
Building Trust and Value Strategies
Steve and Jack discussed business development and sales strategies,
emphasizing the importance of building trust and providing value before asking
emphasizing the importance of building trust and providing value before asking
for a sale. Jack shared his personal approach of getting to know potential
clients, following up promptly, and offering introductions and value even before a
transaction occurs. Steve highlighted the significance of a business owner
knowing their story, values, and purpose, and suggested that past advertising
mistakes should not define future efforts.